I think we have a pretty good baseline, now, with the profile posts we have analyzed so far. Next up is The Forgotten Kingdoms. We have already seen the Monster Hero profile working within the Mordor analysis, and now it is the Good Guy's turn to "monster it up".
THE FORGOTTEN KINGDOMS WARRIORS
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this before, but there are only 4 companies of Warriors available to this army:
- Hobbit Militia
- Hobbit Archer Militia
- Wardens of the Carrock
- Woses Warband
It seems like this army was intended mostly to be used as Allies for other armies, and not necessarily its own stand alone army ... well, I guess that's not entirely true - you could field an army of Monsters and just storm around ... and now that we have "fixed" the "
Hard to Kill!" rule, that might actually be more viable. It would be interesting to see a fielded 1500 Point Forgotten Kingdoms Army comprised of Hobbits (there would be a TON of them) and Monsters - but could you imagine forking out all the money needed to buy Hobbit Miniatures?!?
THE FORGOTTEN KINGDOMS WARMACHINES
Cost 5 Monsters:
Cost 6 Monster Heroes:
Cost 7 Monster Heroes:
Cost 10 Monster Heroes:
- Treebeard
- The Three Hunters
- Gwaihir
- The Fellowship of the Ring
- The White Council
- Council of Wizardry
Keys:
(C) = Common Formation, (R) = Rare Formation, (L) = Legendary Formation
[I] = Infantry, [H] = Cavalry, [A] = Artillery, [M] = "Monster", [MH] = "Monster Hero"
- (L) [MH] The Three Hunters - Underpriced by 34%
- (L) [MH] Beechbone - Underpriced by 16%
- (L) [MH] Quickbeam - Underpriced by 14%
- (L) [MH] Gwaihir - Underpriced by 11%
- (L) [I] Wardens of the Carrock - Underpriced by 10%
- (C) [MH] Great Eagle - Underpriced by 10%
- (L) [MH] Council of Wizardry - Underpriced by 8%
- (L) [MH] Treebeard - Underpriced by 2%
- (C) [M] Ent - Accurately Priced (0% deviation)
- (L) [I] Woses Warband - Accurately Priced (0% deviation)
- (L) [MH] The White Council - Overpriced by 8%
- (L) [MH] The Fellowship of the Ring - Overpriced by 11%
- (C) [I] Hobbit Militia - Overpriced by 100%
- (L) [MH] Tom Bombadil - Overpriced by 111%
- (C) [I] Hobbit Archer Militia - Overpriced by 200%
Wow, Hello Legendary Monster Heroes for cheap! Obviously if you want to play a lot of big monsters on the good side - this is definitely your army!
Applying the template from cheapest (weakest stat-wise) to most expensive (most powerful) gives:
- 5 Points per Company:
- (C) [I] Hobbit Militia
- (C) [I] Hobbit Archer Militia
- 25 Points per Company:
- 50 Points per Company:
- (L) [I] Wardens of the Carrock
- 95 Points:
- 125 Points:
- 155 Points:
- 160 Points:
- 175 Points:
- 225 Points:
- 230 Points:
- 265 Points:
- (L) [MH] The Three Hunters
- 450 Points:
- (L) [MH] The Fellowship of the Ring
- 465 Points:
- (L) [MH] The White Council
- 545 Points:
- (L) [MH] Council of Wizardry
Ahh, yes - much better! That makes a lot more sense seeing it laid out this way!
THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING UPGRADE
The upgrade that is available to The Fellowship of the Ring is
Bill the Pony. Reading the special rule associated to Bill the Pony, he is basically an Epic Hornblower. We think that this upgrade should cost a total of 15 Points since all it does is provide a Move Value increase of +2 for a single company. Looking at the Hero Baseline Profile each point of Move Value would cost +/- 5 points (thus 10 Points for the +2 Move Value points and 5 because it is an upgrade).
A NOTE ON GWAIHIR
It seems like whenever there is a Monster Hero that is worthy of being a "leader of monsters" (e.g., Treebeard or Mordor Troll Chieftain) they come along with a "
<Race> Charge" special rule that applies to the race of which they are a member. It would make sense for Gwaihir to have the "
Eagle Charge" special rule as well [in fact we have already included that in his cost above].
THE FORGOTTEN KINGDOMS HEROES
Key: (C) = Command Hero, (L) = Legendary Hero, (E) = Epic Hero
- (E) Radagast the Brown - Underpriced by 33%
- (E) Saruman the White - Underpriced by 31%
- (L) Grimbeorn - Underpriced by 29%
- (E) Gandalf the Grey - Underpriced by 27%
- (L) Ghan-buri-ghan - Underpriced by 12%
- (E) Gandalf the White - Underpriced by 2%
- (C) Civic Leader HAM - Overpriced by 150%
- (C) Civic Leader HM - Overpriced by 233%
Sorting by the cost calculated by the template from cheapest (weakest stat-wise) to most expensive (most powerful) - of course, all the awesome characters (Epic Heroes) are now at the bottom of the list … most powerful and most expensive (as we have seen time-and-again):
- Heroes that should cost 15 Points:
- Heroes that should cost 20 Points:
- Heroes that should cost 85 Points:
- (L) Grimbeorn
- (L) Ghan-buri-ghan
- Heroes that should cost 240 Points:
- Heroes that should cost 275 Points:
- Heroes that should cost 290 Points:
- Heroes that should cost 305 Points:
